Christ begotten in Eternity?


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Our Seventh Day Adventist pioneers testify:

"The Scriptures declare that Christ is "the only begotten son of God." He is begotten, not created" (E.J. Waggoner, Christ and His Righteousness, p. 21).

"He was born of the Holy Ghost. In other words, Jesus Christ was born again. He came from heaven, God's first-born, to the earth, and was born again. But all in Christ's work goes by opposites for us:  He, the sinless one, was made to be sin in order that we might be made the righteousness of God in Him.  He, the living One, the Prince and Author of life, died that we might live. He whose goings forth have been from the days of eternity, the first-born of God, was born again in order that we might be born again" (A.T. Jones, Christian Perfection, paragraph 53). (This is also found in Lessons on Faith, p. 154.)

"He who was born in the form of God took the form of man" (A.T. Jones, The General Conference Bulletin, 1895, p. 449).

"Christ is the only literal Son of God. "The only begotten of the Father." John 1:14. He is God because he is the Son of God; not by virtue of His resurrection.  If Christ is the only begotten of the Father, then we cannot be begotten of the Father in a literal sense. It can only be in a secondary sense of the word" (John Matteson, The Review & Herald, October 12, 1869).

"The Scriptures nowhere speak of Christ as a created being, but on the contrary plainly state that he was begotten of the Father." (Uriah Smith, Daniel and Revelation, p. 430)

"God alone is without beginning. At the earliest epoch when a beginning could be, – a period so remote that to finite minds it is essentially eternity, – appeared the Word. "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." John 1:1. This uncreated Word was the Being, who, in the fullness of time, was made flesh, and dwelt among us. His beginning was not like that of any other being in the universe. It is set forth in the mysterious expressions, "his [God's] only begotten Son" (John 3:16; 1.John 4:9), "the only begotten of the Father" (John 1:14), and, "I proceeded forth and came from God." John 8:42″ (Uriah Smith, Looking Unto Jesus, p. 10).

"The rainbow in the clouds is but a symbol of the rainbow which has encircled the throne from eternity. Back in the ages, which finite mind cannot fathom, the Father and Son were alone in the universe. Christ was the first begotten of the Father, and to Him Jehovah made known the divine plan of Creation" (Stephen Haskell, Story of the Seer of Patmos, pp. 93, 94).

"Christ was the firstborn in heaven; He was likewise the firstborn of God upon earth, and heir to the Father's throne. Christ, the firstborn, though the Son of God, was clothed in humanity, and was made perfect through suffering" (Stephen Haskell, Story of the Seer of Patmos p. 98).

"The S. D. Adventists hold the divinity of Christ so nearly with the Trinitarians that we apprehend no trial here" (James White, The Review & Herald, October 12, 1876).

 
"But if I am asked what I think of Jesus Christ, my reply is, I believe all that the Scriptures say of him. If the testimony represents him as being in glory with the Father before the world was, I believe it. If it is said that he was in the beginning with God, that he was God, that all things were made by him and for him, and that without him was not anything made that was made, I believe it. If the Scriptures say he is the Son of God, I believe it. If it is declared that the Father sent his Son into the world, I believe he had a Son to send. … Children inherit the name of their father. The Son of God "hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than" the angels" (R.F. Cottrell, The Review & Herald, June 1 1869, emphasis in the original).

"As to when He was begotten, it is not for us to inquire, nor could our minds grasp it if we were told. The prophet Micah tells us all that we can know about it in these words, "But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall He come forth unto Me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from the days of eternity." Micah 5:2, margin.  There was a time when Christ proceeded forth and came from God, from the bosom of the Father (John 8:42; 1:18), but that time was so far back in the days of eternity that to finite comprehension it is practically without beginning" (E.J. Waggoner — Christ and His Righteousness, pp. 21, 22).

"In arguing the perfect equality of the Father and the Son, and the fact that Christ is in very nature God, we do not design to be understood as teaching that the Father was not before the Son. It should not be necessary to guard this point, lest some should think that the Son existed as soon as the Father; yet some go to that extreme, which adds nothing to the dignity of Christ, but rather detracts from the honor due him, since many throw the whole thing away rather than accept a theory so obviously out of harmony with the language of Scripture, that Jesus is the only begotten Son of God. He was begotten, not created. He is of the substance of the Father, so that in his very nature he is God; and since this is so "it pleased the Father that in him should all fullness dwell." Col. 1:19 … While both are of the same nature, the Father is first in point of time. He is also greater in that he had no beginning, while Christ's personality had a beginning" (E.J. Waggoner, The Signs of the Times, April 8, 1889).

"The Father was greater than the Son in that he was first. The Son was equal with the Father in that he had received all things from the Father" (James White, The Review & Herald, January 4, 1881).

"And as to the Son of God, he would be excluded also, for he had God for his Father, and did, some point at the eternity of the past, have beginning of days. So that if we use Paul's language in an absolute sense, it would be impossible to find but one being in the universe, and that is God the Father, who is without father, or mother, or descent, or beginning of days, or end of life" (J.N. Andrews, The Review & Herald, September 7, 1869).

"The angels, therefore, are created beings, necessarily of a lower order than their Creator. Christ is the only being begotten of the Father" (James Edson White [Son of Ellen White], Past Present and Future, p. 52).

"The dedication of the first-born had its origin in the earliest times. God had promised to give the First-born of heaven to save the sinner." {The Desire of Ages, p. 51}

"Angels of God looked with amazement upon Christ, who took upon Himself the form of man and humbly united His divinity with humanity in order that He might minister to fallen man. It is a marvel among the heavenly angels. God has told us that He did do it, and we are to accept the Word of God just as it reads. And although we may try to reason in regard to our Creator, how long He has had existence, where evil first entered into our world, and all these things, we may reason about them until we fall down faint and exhausted with the research when there is yet an infinity beyond." {E. G. White, S.D.A. Bible Commentary Vol. 7, p. 919} 1888

"The Lord Jesus Christ, the divine Son of God, existed from eternity, a distinct person, yet one with the Father. He was the surpassing glory of heaven. He was the commander of the heavenly intelligences, and the adoring homage of the angels was received by him as his right. This was no robbery of God. "The Lord possessed me in the beginning of his way," he declares, "before his works of old. I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was. When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water. Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was I brought forth; while as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world. When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth."" {E.G. White, Review and Herald, April 5, 1906 par. 7}

"In reviewing our past history, having traveled over every step of advance to our present standing, I can say, Praise God! As I see what the Lord has wrought, I am filled with astonishment, and with confidence in Christ as leader. We have nothing to fear for the future, except as we shall forget the way the Lord has led us, and His teaching in our past history" (Ellen White Life Sketches, p. 196).
"The enemy of souls has sought to bring in the supposition that a great reformation was to take place among Seventh-day Adventists, and that this reformation would consist in giving up the doctrines which stand as the pillars of our faith, and engaging in a process of reorganization. Were this reformation to take place, what would result? The principles of truth that God in His wisdom has given to the remnant church, would be discarded. Our religion would be changed. The fundamental principles that have sustained the work for the last fifty years would be accounted as error. A new organization would be established. Books of a new order would be written. A system of intellectual philosophy would be introduced. The founders of this system would go into the cities, and do a wonderful work. The Sabbath, of course, would be lightly regarded, as also the God who created it. Nothing would be allowed to stand in the way of the new movement. The leaders would teach that virtue is better than vice, but God being removed, they would place their dependence on human power, which, without God, is worthless. Their foundation would be built on the sand, and storm and tempest would sweep away the structure" (Ellen White Special Testimonies, Series B, no. 2, p. 54).

[is this what the SDA pioneers believed?]


 

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